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David Icke: The Turd In The Punch Bowl

David Icke: The Turd In The Punch Bowl

If you haven’t heard of David Icke, he’s a “conspiracy theorist” whose combative debating style and often spectacular claims have made him both the subject of ridicule and fascination over the last twenty odd years. 
When it comes to conspiracy theories, you really haven’t heard anything yet until you’ve heard David Icke.

Illuminati?

Training wheels.

JFK assassination?

Kids stuff.

Roswell?

You really like wasting your time, don’t you?

How about ancient shape shifting reptilians from another dimension controlling the world through an elite bloodline (like the British Royal Family) who use the moon (which is an artificial construct) to direct a reality altering frequency from Saturn that hides their reptilian nature from us? “They Live” style.


If you are an aspiring conspiracy theorist, or an Alex Jones for that matter, you really have nothing on David Icke. Because if he is willing to say that, what could anyone do or say to shame him? And here’s the thing; why should David Icke be ashamed? He gets paid a good wage to do what he loves most, slander people, say crazy shit, travel the world, and be the center of attention. 

To write this post I consulted the all knowing Wikipedia. But I got bored of that really fast and just started watching old videos of him. To be fair, there seems to be just as many videos of David Icke as there are on Michael Jordan. Certainly more of him talking about himself or his beliefs (and defending them) than there are of people like Aleister Crowley and Jack Parsons, or even more contemporary figures like Terrance McKenna and Robert Anton Wilson. The former two men who seem to personify the kind of evil, alien, occult conspiracy David Icke is trying to warn us against. And let’s be clear, I’m not saying that there isn’t an evil, alien, occult conspiracy, I’m just saying that David Icke is completely convinced that there is one, and most of us are not. I also asked some of the mega minds over CMG for their opinions. 

I could have picked up one of David Icke’s books, but I can’t picture myself sitting through any of them just to get a better idea of why he thinks the Queen of England is a lizard. But if you can, by all means,  knock yourself out.  Perhaps, if the comparison was a metaphor of some kind. But that isn’t the case here. (Or is it?) 

Looking back at David Icke’s career, the one thing that stands out is the progression. We go from here to there fairly quickly. He starts off by getting some type of vision proclaiming that he is the son of God. After that, he finds himself in South America receiving another vision, somehow downloading the real truth into his brain and “waking him up” to the realities, or in this case, unrealities of the world around him.

Now, David, seems to have forgotten (okay, not completely) that he is the son of God. And has instead propelled himself into the forefront of even crazier sounding ideas that’ll get you ridiculed by even the most hardened, unreliable conspiratorial narrators. 

Like the aforementioned Alex Jones, who once compared David Icke’s rhetoric to finding a “turd in a punch bowl.” Jones, has come around on Icke and now counts him as a friend, but they got off to a rocky start. 

Then there are the charges of anti-semitism. Which seem pretty obvious to some being that Jews have been subjected to reptilian slander for hundreds of years. David Icke’s bigotry is more sophisticated than calling someone a kike. His slander is vague, with the exception of the reptilian talk. He will talk around it and take the Anti-Zionist angle, and even sprinkle in “some, not all” rhetoric along the way to further throw you off the trail. But if you listen, it’s there. I would go as far to say that he’s embraced the literal reptilian angle to avoid charges of anti-semitism. Problem is, some of remember those anti-Jew rants.

It’s really hard to appreciate David Icke’s good points with all this other shit circulating around him. I could say that he is an eloquent speaker who brings a lot of confidence to his lectures. He handles interviewers like a champ as well. And he’s now a master at deflecting the reptilian skepticism he faces at the beginning of every mainstream media interview he does. I also applaud his willingness to tell the elite families to go fuck themselves. However, if I were to weigh the good and the bad, I would say that there is much more bad here. 

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I’m not saying it’s aliens but…

reptilian

Reptilians.

One of our hot topics for debate here at the 33rd Parallel is reptilians. Do they exist? And if so, what are they? Where do they come from and what do they want?

The concept of our reptilian overlords was popularized by conspiracy guru David Icke, possibly to discredit himself in the eyes of certain powers that might have him assassinated if he sounded sane.  But the idea of reptilian humanoids has a lineage stretching back through the popular men’s fantasy fiction of the 1930’s, Helena Blavatsky’s Dragon Men of Lemuria, and even farther. Even the name Dracula comes from the word “dragon”, and was the name of an order that Vladamir Tepes was granted in the 1400’s for his ferocity.

So what’s the story here?

Possibility 1: The Common Sense Explanation

Some of us here at the 33rd HQ believe that reptilians are a metaphor for the R-complex, the part of the brain which controls our basic survival and base pleasure instincts. Fighting, fleeing, fucking and freezing are all governed by our reptile brain, so called because it is the most primitive part of our brain structure, with the limbic system (mammal brain) and neocortex (human brain) building on its underlying architecture.

According to this theory, “reptilians” are a metaphor that can be projected onto people or groups whose behavior seems cold blooded or alien. This process of projecting unconsciously held metaphors has been observed in specific populations.

According to this article by Jon Ronson, chief propagator of the reptilian conspiracy David Icke might be using “reptilian” as a coded metaphor for the Jewish banking conspiracy. Icke himself seems pretty clear that he means literal twelve foot tall lizard people though.

As fun as it might be to speculate about the mental state of folks who spread this kind of belief, there are other possibilities as well. So now that Occam’s Razor is out of the way, let’s look at some juicier possibilities.

Possibility 2: It’s really Aliens

In his 1976 book The Sirius Mystery, Robert G. Temple speculates that the Dogon people from Mali had communication with “fish people” from the Sirius star system and that those aliens gave us human culture. It is pretty much accepted now that that was just bad anthropology and projection on his part, but that hasn’t stopped the believers from believing.

Digging around on the internet for actual primary source accounts of encounters with reptilians tends to yield a lot of sloppy, low quality “reporting” and cases of hypnotically recovered memories. The strongest case for the existence of the literal existence of these cold-blooded aliens seems to be comparative mythology, which some of us at 33 HQ think makes a stronger case that they are more metaphorical than literal.

In fact, here is some “proof” that David Icke is right, which basically says what we already talked about up there.

Possibility 3: It’s Angels (or Demons or extra-dimensional entities or whatever)

David Icke’s interest in the reptilians seems to have been sparked by his discovery of alleged MKULTRA mind control victim Arizona Wilder, who talked about encountering the reptilians in the context of occult ritual, under extreme psychological duress. According to this thread on a conspiracy forum, she has subsequently recanted.

Here is a story about someone following in the footsteps of 33rd parallel perennial favorite Aleister Crowley and contacting the intelligence known as Lam. It’s worth noting that he describes the uhhh… alien(?) as being “a very cold, mechanical kind of computer-like intelligence”.

Is it possible that these so-called alien intelligences are reaching out to us from an invisible dimension throughout collective imagination? Are they influencing our thoughts and evolution? If so, we might expect to find very little literal evidence, but the case could be made…